Sounds and looks like you want to make more of an arcade game. In that case you wouldn't be directly competing with Fifa and PES. That would also be a much simpler implementation than something like Fifa which relies on tons of animations with different layers and blending, as well as custom-coded movement/dribbling/shooting/passing logic mixed together with some rigid bodies.
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A soccer game to compete the Fifa's and PES brands?
The idea is based on a simple observation and live experience
Everyone, even non-programmers have game ideas. So you are about 2 seconds into planning at this point. You don't think the devs on sports games observe sports games?
You could make a soccer(football) game yes, but you'll have random generic teams then? People want real teams, so you already are in a massive losing battle from marketing.
yeah without real teams and known players no one will want to play. In order to have real teams and real players you are going to have to pay royalties and contracts to use them.
Make a simple prototype with cheap graphics: textured vertical cylinders, a sphere, some rectangles and lines without animation are enough to see player and ball positions on the field and test controls, rules and AI. Cheap graphics mean never waiting for updated assets before trying gameplay changes.
If and when your ideas and your iterative playtesting yield a fun football game you can start considering a commercial release and some effort towards adding less abstract graphics, animations, a nice stadium, and other polishing (enough to look good, not enough to compete with AAA games with the advantage of featuring real players and teams).
dpadam450 said:
You could make a soccer(football) game yes, but you'll have random generic teams then? People want real teams, so you already are in a massive losing battle from marketing.
Well that's an assumption. “People" may want all sorts of things. If OP can create something different enough that has features that are better than the competition, some people will play even though it's missing teams. But to reach the wider market, having the real teams is needed.
@Jaybadbc , now's your chance to grab the FIFA license. They told EA to get lost because EA's proposal was $1B lower than what FIFA wanted. https://kotaku.com/fifa-soccer-ea-games-sports-fc-franchise-pro-evolution-1848905860
Last October the news said that they were talking about just over 1B per four years, with a new cycle that matches the World Cup, nearly 300M per year. It was reportedly more than double the older license, and that was just with the threat and trademark pre-registration.
I cannot imagine the brand name bringing in that much additional sales. I can imagine the game title brings 20, 50, or maybe 100 million globally, but not 250-300M each year. Whoever snaps it up is going to get a few million in sales for FIFA 24 their first year with the name confusion, so absolutely a good time to buy the rights.
You just need a few billion dollars lying around.
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To answer some of the questions and concerns. What do we mean by competing the two leaders in that genre? We are not talking in terms of realism, Fifa or Fifpro Licenses, player likeness, and so on. Our main goal is to inject some new approaches to playability. One that would give the impression to have better and cleverer skill control with the ball. something more intuitive.
The rest ( Names of player, Stadium, Competions ) can be worked around…
Jaybadbc said:
We are not talking in terms of realism, Fifa or Fifpro Licenses, player likeness, and so on. Our main goal is to inject some new approaches to playability. One that would give the impression to have better and cleverer skill control with the ball. something more intuitive. The rest ( Names of player, Stadium, Competions ) can be worked around…
Okay. Since you waited 3 months to tell us that, you can expect more responses to appear from people who only read the subject line and maybe the first post. A not-as-good-looking soccer game that does not incorporate the features that make the competition so popular is not going to “compete” in any meaningful way with the competition. If there is something you want to hear from the community beyond the same arguments you got 3 months ago, you'd probably be better served by a new thread with a reworded subject line.
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